Capacities and a way forward?

[Bound2Burst]

To be honest, I have been uncertain about whether or not to continue with this theme. There is no question that it has been popular, and last year we measured the pee volume of something like 20 girls, culminating in a compilation of those measurement moments which has also proved a popular item of sale.

The question now is where to go from here? Is there any point in measuring the output of girls when we know they have smaller bladders than girls like Candle and Carissa? No way will they ever reach those levels. I have produced a few such clips this year, notably with Amanda where we tried to expand her capacity. We actually did, from about 400 ml on her first attempt last September to 600 ml on her third try. But still, she will never match Candle! Because buyers know this, there has not been an overwhelming response to the releases, suggesting it may be time to stop.

One person did make a suggestion, and while it seems a good idea on the surface, I am less sure about implementation. He suggested starting a donation fund which accumulates throughout the year, during which period models are made aware of this to encourage them to wait longer and pee more, and at the end of the year, have a winner and two runners up for the fund payout based on maximum pee volume. Seems like fun, but of course many of the models will not stand a chance of winning and they will know that, so they probably would not try. Candle has retired from travelling for shoots now so she would not participate. Carissa is still working, at least for now. Vonka might be in with a chance given that she can produce almost 900 ml now and could probably extend that a little. But in reality, that's probably about it. The average output from the girls is around 600-700 ml, pretty normal for their sizes.

Okay, so we could then divide up the challenge into several ranges, but you can probably see how this would quickly become complicated. Where do you set those boundaries. and what happens if a model crosses from one to the other, winning in the first category (say up to 800 ml) but then becomes a loser in the second (say, 800-1,000 ml) category. Without an absolute scale, fairness could quickly go out of the window.

If I am to consider doing something along these lines, I will need input from interested parties to help me sort out the logistics. If there is no significant response, I shall assume this is a bad idea and let it go, so to speak.

[samihyypia]

Hi Dave

I think in general any kind of video which encourages the girls to wait for as long as possible for what ever reason is also workable and in my view the main attraction to what is offered.

My initial thoughts would be to have all the girls who are wishing to take part in the "fight for the donation fund" film a capacity video and then the results of those videos can be used as a benchmark for which to perform analysis on the "competition" videos... Once you have a range of girls results you can then ascertain each girls percentage wee hold against the "test" video.

There may need to be some sort of way to ensure the girls don't deliberately throw the tests ... i.e wee before they have to in order to appear to have a lower capacity... For most girls an average from previous recorded capacity videos could be used to aid this.

What do you think so far?

[chris]

Well, I can see the idea behind the 'fund' but it would be tough to implement fairly.

A measuring video on a new model's first shoot is always good, and another on her second or third shoot gives an interesting comparison. But i also I agree with samihyypia - the appeal of the measuring videos isn't just see the result in the cylinder, it's also you pushing the model to hold on as long as she possibly can (and her having the challenge that the cylinder provides). I'm happy to buy a measuring video even if I know roughly what the result will be, and even if I know it will come nowhere near someone like Carissa.

Here's a question for you - does giving the measuring result in the video description or screenshots seem to reduce sales? As I said, I'll buy the video even if I know the result, but I guess some customers like the intrigue, and therefore might only buy the first measuring video by any given model.

I'm not all that interested in finding the biggest bladder out of all the models. We've all seen movies elsewhere measuring two litres, and I doubt we'll ever see that on B2B unless we get lucky, but I still enjoy watching a model really struggle to hold 600ml. I loved watching Jasmine hold more than I ever thought she could, even though it was far from record-breaking.

Along the lines suggested by samihyypia, would some sort for small bonus for a model beating her personal best work? It would have to come out of your pocket so it's for you to decide whether it would be worth it.

Chris

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[Mattshark]

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I had thought about messaging you an idea similar to the one in the OP, Dave - except that it would be a (donated by customers) fund paid out to anyone that sets a new record. Though a prize for the highest capacity at the end of the year would work too. Perhaps better actually since it might be a long wait before anyone surpasses Jayne's record - I can count on one hand the number of ladies I know who have peed more, and thats from 10 years of buying videos. It might be a good way of attracting new models, with those who think/know they have a large bladder getting in touch with you about work. You're right that it doesn't offer much extra incentive to most models of average capacity, but theres not much that can really be done about that without over complicating things.

Regarding the question of whether to reveal or not to reveal the outcome of measuring videos, perhaps that could be on a separate page and linked to in the description, for those that wish to know.

[Lionheartyz]

Sup Dave, I know it has been a while. I have almost e-mailed you again a few times in the last year because your videos keep popping up everywhere online but the last 18mo for me have been insanity, and the next two years only look to be worse (Training for, then 1 year deployment)...

That being said...

I have had ideas similar to this over the year, crowd funded prize for record breakers (discounting Jayne records as technically it wasn't an official measurement despite being the obvious record), but came to the same conclusion you did... only 2-3 girls per year or more would even have a chance at it, and who is to say they would even try.

That being said... one idea that did occur to me.

Step 1 : Set up that crowd funded account, maybe you could kick a few hundred to start off then take 50% of donations till you get yours back.

Step 2 : Measure each girl on their first shoot. Most people who haven't done this have natural aversions to peeing themselves starting out and you should get solid measurements.

Step 3 : In future visits, offer bonus for a measurement video if they beat their own record. $20 per 50ml over previous or something to that nature (Leave pricing and logistics in your capable hands)

This style of setup would allow you to package a single models measurement videos together in the future to show progression. Models will have solid but not "unsafe" incentive to push themselves, and fans would be able to track the progress of their favorite models. Once the pot got semi-large, you could also offer half of it as a reward for anyone who beats the record. I feel this would allow any model, regardless of the size of their bladder a fair chance at some extra cash for "going the extra mile" for the viewers, and the heavy-weight a larger incentive for trying for the proverbial belt.

Side Note : Have you ever thought of a Stool/Chair that the graduated cylinder could be centered under. Models could sit down in a more natural stance and place their vulva inside the cylinder for no spillage. You could put a skirt around the seat for models who don't want to show that level of nudity, they could sit down in panties then just pull them to the side and place their vulva down in the cylinder. With a skirt on the seat of the chair you would have full view of the important section of the cylinder without showing the very top, protecting the models modesty.

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[Dave78]

Awesome to see the scheduled return of the lovely Rachel.

If the content isn't already filmed, please please please please please please can you get her to have a pop at Jayne's capacity record? She came so close in Holding Contest 6 and it's been so long since we've seen anything like it.

Pleeease!

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Looking back at HC6, I see Rachael spilled some pee on the floor while trying to go in the cylinder, so her record is more like 1,360 ml. It will be interesting to find out if she can do that again. I may try something like getting her to go for a drive to take her mind off it for as long as possible. If it takes a long time, it may be the only pee video of the day since we'll be filming a lot of other content too.

[Dave78]

Fantastic idea,

Sounds like a reenactment of Jayne's record setting shoot. I recon the most important thing would be to get her to have a genuine desire to set new record.

She's looking super slim and hot these days too. Some bulging bladder action would be superb I'm sure.

Really appreciate the effort.

[TreeTrimmer]

Hi, Dave:
I love watching the girls struggle to hold it right to the last second. I would lo-o-o-ove to see a comparison between a situation where the girl has to stand almost stock still as if playing an instrument in the band, and another situation where no holds are barred, so to speak, she could even hold herself with her fingers, and see what the difference in their capacities would be. What I'm trying to find out is how much difference does it make in how much a girl can hold between if she can't step around and jiggle vs doing whatever it takes to hold back a few more ml of pee.
I would definitely buy some of those videos!!!

Thanks!!!!

Tree