Good news for November, but feedback needed

[Bound2Burst]

I have a three model shoot booked for mid-November with Jasmine, Cadence and Vonka. They have never all worked together before so the shoot will be somewhat unique. My original intention was to film a couple of bondage videos (I have also hired a professional rigger for the day), one desperation clip and some forced stripping. However, bondage sales have been truly crap of late so I have changed my mind about the content. I will film one bondage video, fairly quickly, and then get down to filming plenty of desperation content. My plans are not completely solidified, but I intend to film some scenario-type videos, such as all three girls being confined by two guys who won't allow them to visit the bathroom, and perhaps an elevator type story where the girls are again trapped with two guys and one or more of them needs to pee. The problem with the elevator idea is the close proximity of everyone. This is a problem for the camera, and not good when pee starts flowing everywhere, so I shall have to see. What I do intend to avoid is any kind of holding content. It may sound like a good idea on the face of it, but the last time I filmed one of these with three girls (Cali, Hannah & Cadence), it really fell flat in terms of sales. Perhaps this format has had its day. Besides, given the players this time, we already know who would win: Vonka.

I also think a measurement video is pointless here because, again, Vonka would win - she has the largest bladder of the three. I also don't know how Jasmine would perform with a second guy around that she has never met before. Cadence would not care, and Vonka already knows him.

I am open to suggestions and opinions. I'd like to get it right so that this shoot pays off, because if it doesn't, I may well have to make it the last of its kind. The cost of hosting multi-model shoots like this is very high and sales in today's market are so much less than they were five years ago.

Addition on 8th November: Thank you all for your suggestions. I have a lot of ideas to work with. The shoot is a little over a week away, so I shall now start laying specific plans. It should be a fun day.

[Watcher]

Hi Dave

Sounds like great models for your next shoot !

My wish list is - straight forward desperation, girls standing (bare legs, mini-skirt ?), denied access to bathroom, resulting in wetting themselves.

When they start to wet themselves, can you make sure that the guys are not in the camera view ?

Thanks for asking for feedback

[tbrady14]

Personally I don't enjoy the scenario videos and most likely would not buy them. I do think you should make whatever you believe will result in the best sales for you though.

A few of my suggestions:

-Could have all 3 of them chained to the fireplace and get them each as desperate as possible before letting them pee in vase(jasmine can run and pee in kitchen area again if she would prefer)
--I like that idea mainly because that was the most desperate I have seen Cadence. She often seems to give up way before her limit(I could be totally wrong about this)

-The holding challenge style where the girls need to encourage each other to wait to win a bonus
--Can team Jasmine and Cadence against vonka to make it more interesting
--Maybe even allow cadence and jasmine to each pee 1 or 2 dixie cups(the time to go cups) when they are really desperate to help them hold out a bit longer

-A series of challenges that all the girls have to do when you tell them, kind of make it a game
--Stand with legs apart for 10 seconds
--Drink a cup of water
--Pee just a tiny bit and stop
--Do 3 jumping jacks
--Etc
--Winner would be who lasts the longest(probably vonka but this would potentially be more interesting then just standing around holding)

That idea may work out better for a single model shoot


Or if you choose to do all scenario shoots, maybe do another Desperation Documentary Style video where you show the girls filling up at different rates, how that affects shooting, asking them to wait for others to get full. I really enjoyed the Jasmine Carissa one and Cali Cadence one


I'm sure whatever you decide will be great!

[chris]

Here goes a stream of random thoughts for you:

- You have great confidence in Vonka and it's no doubt well-placed, but I think Cadence held more when she was chained to the fireplace than I've ever seen Vonka manage. Perhaps a contest wouldn't be such a foregone conclusion? You could offer a prize of being the 'boss' in a movie later that day instead of offering cash.

- My best suggestion is to aim for variety and film as much content as you can. If the models' bladders are 'out of sync' you could film almost continuously with only one or two of them desperate in each movie.

- You've done some one-on-one videos in the past that have worked well, so maybe leave a camera running with one model while you film another scenario with a different model?

- If you don't need both blokes in every movie, could one of them film a movie with one model while you film with the other two? Keep it simple and it might turn out OK.

- I've seen you sometimes shoot a bondage or forced stripping clip that runs on into a desperation clip. That makes good use of the footage even if the original clip doesn't sell well.

- If space is an issue for an elevator clip then maybe they don't need to be in an elevator? They could be trapped anywhere really but they need a believable reason to hold on. Perhaps they could be trapped somewhere like a store window display where a crowd outside can see them, or on a reality TV show where they are being watched live.

- I've been around here long enough for you to know that nude videos are a guaranteed purchase for me. Jasmine's presence makes that tricky but maybe she could be the one making the others strip?

- How about a challenge to beat a certain total volume from all three girls together? Something around 2 - 2.5 litres perhaps.

- Having said all that, I'm generally happy with single-model movies so I don't mind too much if that's the way you go in future.

- How about a scenario on a TV shopping channel with the girls modelling your wife's jewellery?

[awg2013]

Just my two cents or pence however you like it.

I'm a toilet fetish guy. Vonka is probably my new favorite, and I'd love to see stuff where she makes it. I also wouldn't turn down seeing the other two girls in that situation. If you make 'em. I'll buy 'em.

I'm also really into behind the scenes stuff. Maybe it's the candid nature of it. I've been really pleased with the BTS clips you've released in the past. Genuine desperation and conversation with just made it at the end. It may be something new to look into as a niche.

[Bound2Burst]

Thank you for all this wonderful feedback. It really does help me because I often come up dry for ideas these days. For others who are considering posting, please do! The more ideas I have to work with, the better this and future videos will be.

I admit I am inclining to some behind the scenes stuff in this shoot. That certainly can be fun, and is something where a lack of coordination can be an advantage. We will probably end up with a whole ton of footage.

[pcwp]

While my input probably doesn’t effect sales that much

Battle of the bladders was definetely my favourite 2016 movie. The desperation documentary style was just something different. Wouldn’t necessarily have to have it as one large movie, it could be split out like you did before with the ‘Day with’ style movies (Carissa and Dixie) a long time ago.

Could you potentially do both? Film the BTS stuff and still cut out shorter no BTS desperation clips - I.e have the BTS available on the store, but also have non BTS stuff available to post on C4S which would help keep the price reasonable and give more content to post.

I would say some of the candle/Dixie/jasmine movies could spark some ideas on what to do too, in terms of getting around some of the ‘content restrictions’ Jasmine can bring

[tbrady14]

[qpeg]

I like the idea of adapting the chained-to-the-fireplace type scenario to something that would work with multiple models. As with those videos you could withhold the jug till a time of your choosing, but with a twist - the models are allowed/chosen to go at different times. So possibly you get a situation where two models are desperate to go but only one is allowed at that time, with the other having to wait several more minutes.

The combined holding contest idea is also interesting, with the models going for a combined goal rather than competing against each other. That could possibly work with the above idea, in a story line where they have to pee a certain amount to win their freedom or such.

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[tuggy24g]

I know I'm late and you probably have ideas already planned but here are a few more suggestions

Scene option 1:
The three girls came back from lunch and forgot there is a meeting at 1:30. So they rush to get there things and head to the meeting. Because they are rushing not to be late for the meeting. They forget to use the bathroom and have to try hold it the while meeting.

Scene option 2:
A lesbian couple is looking to buy a house. One of the lesbian couple has to pee while walking around the house checking it out with the realtor. The other partner says she will distract the realtor while you go pee. So the desperate partner rushes to the bathroom and the door is locked. The realtor sees her trying to open it and the way she is holding herself and dancing around like she has to pee really badly. Unfortunately the realtor does not put two and two together and just explains why it is locked possibly. The girl can't hold it anymore and pees right in front of them.
Scene option 3:
Super models are getting ready to go out on the runway and have to run to get ready for there turn. Since they are rushing to change clothes they have no time to pee. Also with full bladders it makes their stomach look bigger so they have to suck in a little to look slime. Also since they have to pee they walk funny on the runway. The girls do wet them self's a little before making it to the bathroom.